Thanks for the educated insight.
It’s great to see graff being discussed in an educated way.

Over the years, I’ve met plenty of the “have lawyers and family to bail them out of anything” crowd and blame them for a lot of what’s going on right now.

But the crux of this issue is based heavily on your final point:

“art needs graff more than graff needs art”

Brilliantly put.

Cheers for the input,
George

if some bogan retard kids wanna be “oldschool” and embrace vandalism, unorigionality and the the whole lifestyle that goes with it let them. Some of theme even have lawyers and family to bail them out of anything.

Graff isnt about just trying to fit into the respectable art world – thats for the middle class educated kids that will get careers and probably quit after a few years of streetart – when they have made it

most of my hardcore writer friends come from poor backgrounds and hate the whole world of respectible art – they have their reasons and its fair enough – many have plenty of real problems and use graff
as the only chance to get some peer respect – something the rest of society wont give them. Is it even graffiti if it is legal is a fair point. I did a lot of shit tags and throwups when i was in constant pain from arthritis – art or credibilitry were not on my mind.

Whatever reason you do graff or street art you are being a bit of a dick to sombody – even if you have bvecome decent – art needs graff more than graff needs art

http://graffitiresearchlab.com/?page_id=6

I can’t judge the London train bombing in artistic terms. I have only seen the pictures you show, and I have no confidence in my judgement of what is an esoteric form that does not conform to the linear progression demands of the gallery art world.

I just marvel that people will go so far, and take such trouble, and accept such risk, to do such a thing.

From what I can see, the train looks better with the bubble lettering than a clean train.

I find it weird that so many painters will expend their entire artistic impulse on such a mannered pursuit as only applying oils to stretched canvas, framing it, displaying it for a short time on gallery walls, then handing it over to the buyer to hide away forever.

And then to conform meekly to the idiotic, demands of that art world, to accept that cubism has been out of fashion for decades, therefore the style has lost its credibility…

Seems perverse and silly to me.

Cheers for the feedback and I get your point, but should we really celebrate unoriginality?

I enjoyed some of the pieces on your website and most of them show a lot of creative forethought, but throwing-up the same word world-over is bland art regardless of how you look at it. And that’s what we’re looking at here.

Cubism has lost all credibility – why not graffiti?

But thanks for alerting me to this.

http://www.wallup.net/

But I’m not impressed by churlish, superior commentary like this. It’s a bit tiresome.